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Post  ExoticWhiteMan on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:12 am

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444101,00.html

This article essentially details a US cross border attack. This time, we went across the Iraqi border into Syria and killed a bunch of militant/civilians. Also, as you probably know, we attack militants in Pakistan across the Afghan border on a regular basis, and there are still reports of CIA drones launching missiles and killing over a dozen people at a time. Our problem with Syria is that, unlike other Iraq-neighboring countries, Syria has a porous border and a military that sympathizes with militants who kill innocent people. I guess, one question we should ask, is whether or not this is justified, and whether or not it helps the situation. Obama seems to think so, and I do, as well.

There are so many civilians who sympathize with the militants, and why they do is beyond me. If it's over racial/religious tensions, then perhaps bombing the entire tribal region would solve the problem, but we have to be mindful of the innocent people living there. Dammit bin Laden, why the hell did you have to attack the US? Having to win the hearts and minds of people who speak an entirely different language, had to deal with Russia and civil war over the years, and had their religious rights suppressed by their own governments is making this war a lot more difficult than we would like it to be. I have some confidence with Obama in this respect, in that he will be more sensitive to winning these people over, so that they don't become militants in the first place. Although, his small amount of ANY experience in government at all is making his rhetoric a tough sell. Whoever our next president is, I doubt we will see much change in these wars. Winning over stubborn supporters of a violent extremist movement is going to be long and difficult, no matter what approach is taken.
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Post  Gustavus_Adolfus on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:53 am

Well the reason Middle Eastern people can sympathize with the militants is because they are "freedom fighters". Think about it....during our revolutionary war we used militias and guerrilla tactics. Except we were succeeding from Britain. However in Iraq and the Middle East, we are considered invaders and we have been doing a pretty sloppy job if I do say so myself.

And in case no one knew, there was a militant group that once it heard the US was trying to make a plan to leave went from killing soldiers to starting soup kitchens and socialist institutions.

Most of the Iraqis at the moment are just frustrated, especially when their unemployment rate is ridiculously high.
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Post  ExoticWhiteMan on Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:01 am

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7692373.stm

Here's an article about what we've done in Pakistan up to now. We recently leveled one Taliban leader's house with a missile from a drone. There's a cool pic of a drone and a map of the tribal areas, to :-).

As for the Iraqi's frustration, we can only hope that they continue to take it out on the insurgents by forming awakening councils, joining the army, shooting insurgents, helping their communities etc. It'd be sweet if all of the insurgent groups followed suit and helped people since we would leave if they stopped. But, I'm afraid many of the insurgents are foreign fighters sent in by Al Qaeda or other countries like Iran and Syria, who aren't interested in having a stable democracy and US ally for a neighbor. But, if the Iraqis keep standing up for themselves and fighting against the influx and securing their borders, this war should end quickly. Also, considering Al Qaeda is trying to use women and children as suicide bombers, they won't last much longer on Iraq. That was a fast reply, btw. Do you have some kind of text notification or something?
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Post  Gustavus_Adolfus on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:14 am


As for the Iraqi's frustration, we can only hope that they continue to take it out on the insurgents by forming awakening councils, joining the army, shooting insurgents, helping their communities etc. It'd be sweet if all of the insurgent groups followed suit and helped people since we would leave if they stopped. But, I'm afraid many of the insurgents are foreign fighters sent in by Al Qaeda or other countries like Iran and Syria, who aren't interested in having a stable democracy and US ally for a neighbor. But, if the Iraqis keep standing up for themselves and fighting against the influx and securing their borders, this war should end quickly.

I TOTALLY AGREE!
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Post  Church1ll on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:52 pm

Right on
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